I passed on a chance to buy a late Model K with the later receiver a few years ago and regret letting it go. I have one decent Premier marked Model M (in the above picture), an early Model K with the Meriden style receiver, a late Model M with the last style bolt, and a very rough Model S. There was no connection of the original Meriden/Mossberg design with Savage Arms, the Savage family had not been connection with the Savage Arms Company for several years by that time. The Meriden & Mossberg pump design is not like any of the early Savage pumps, the action is very different, externally they may look similar but internally they are quite different. He told me that Oscar Mossberg had once worked for Savage Arms, he did not. George told me his version of the 'history of the Mossberg pump' once and almost everything he said was wrong, I would very much like to see the book and see if it has the same, or a similar story, if so the information is not correct. I got to know George Fram quite well, he was a well known collector of Mossbergs, he used to display groups of guns from his collection twice a year at a local show. I am really interested in what he has to say on the history of the Mossberg pump 22. I have not had a copy of the Havlin book, I will be keeping a watch for one though. 01146568 George Horne who had patents for improvements on other Meriden firearms and was probably an in-house designer. Here are links to the patent's I found for this design. I do not know if this information has been discussed here before or not, but in case not. I do not frequent this site very often, when I have asked some questions here I got very good help. I copied some of the posts I thought might be of interest here, it's copied out of context from other threads so it may not read well as it is. I recently acquired a very early Meriden which fills in the linage, it's serial number is under 420 and it appears to have most of the features that were in the original patent drawings. 22 rimfire rifle was made in 1915 or 2015 standard velocity will give you a better chance of doing that.I made some posts on some Savage Arms related forums about the development of the Meriden pump 22 design as it went from Meriden, to Mossberg and to it's development into the Savage Model 29 after the patents expired. Silly me, I always thought the point of shooting was to hit your target, and whether your. Using standard velocity ammunition in your Model 12. So think about it, you get far less barrel wear, and far better accuracy by What was even more impressive were the amount of flyers (shots well out of the normal grouping, one box of Super-X had four rounds out of a box of 50 that were almost out of the scoring area on the target or about 1.5" from Small bore 50' target (imagine what they would be like at 50 yards). Less than 40% made the 10-Ring ring on a conventional Horrific when compared to standard/match velocity ammunition and Then came the tests with the high velocity stuff, the accuracy was Standard velocity and match grade ammunition performed as you might expect blowing the ten ring out of the targets.some of course were better than others like Eley Red box or Western Super Match. My Anschutz 1413 Super Match 54 rifle made in 1970. Some years back a gun writer friend of mine wanted to do some group My background was smallbore rifle position competition shooting, no high velocity stuff there unless you were a total dummy wanting to prove how badly you could lose. If you are truly ignorant and wish to ignore that advice let us talk accuracy, high velocity sucks when it comes to overall accuracy. Using high velocity in any older rimfire rifles simply lacks judgement! The metal used on the barrels of these old rifles was the best available at the time but not anything compared to what we have today or as John observed, not the quality of the later versions, those being the Model 121 & 141. My favorite comparison is make note that when the Model 12 and 14 were introduced the Titanic was still afloat. Have to think in terms of 1912 technology. Model 14/141 and for years I have been telling owners of these that you When it comes to Remington rifles most of my expertise involves the I fight with myself when it comes to making comments to a post I didn't initiate but John made a statement "I'll give me usual warning about notįiring high velocity ammunition in a Model 12" that I wish to comment on.
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